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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
yet you feel that the government should outlaw smoking, maybe drinking, or at least anything else that you feel is bad for people? are you confused maybe?
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I don't remember naming alcohol. Cigarettes are addictive, therefore those who smoke them are by definition entrapped, or NOT FREE. If you smoke, you're not free. If you don't smoke you are free. See? Simple.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
we still have chem spills, hazardous material issues, pirates and boating accidents, the presidents brain is missing, handicapped people still get dismissed, what arts, what humanities, how many thousands of mentally ill people go without medical care, and the park service? what a mess. nice try though.
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You're right! Those completely unsubstantiated claims negate the effiency and effectiveness of all of the federal organizations I named!
Nice try, indeed.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
you're obfuscating the issue by saying that everyone pays for and utilizes ALL police functions because they can't fend for themselves, yet no police department has ever been held liable for failure to protect an american citizen. What is it we're paying for again?
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Go down to the police station and ask them. Ask them how many of their fellow officers died trying to protect someone. Go down there and ask how many criminals they've helped to apprehend. Go down and ask how many crimes they could have prevented because they were able to stop a criminal from striking again.
That's what we pay for, and as someone who lives in the safest large city in the whole country, I know this.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
You know not what you speak of. I had military health and dental care and 16 years AFTER, I still have the holes they drilled in my molars that they just didn't fill. Military medicine sucks ass. Prison medical care is better because a wacko liberal group decried the prison system for letting violent criminals waste away in their cells. Medicare and Medicaid, public health systems BTW, continue to drop their coverages while raising their rates and fees. Stop looking through the beer bottles at universal health care.
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You know not what you read. I was not talking about military or prison health care. Please reread what I said. Privatization of the military (google Blackwater) and privatization of prison systems has led to massive corruption and is tremendously expensive.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
The ONLY thing that keeps costs down is competition in the market and that is NOT just a freshman view.
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You're right. Some people actually graduate having actually only taken econ 101. It's sad. The point is that they didn't do any work outside of that one class on the subject. The idea that everything is black and white in economics is actually something one might think
before econ 101. The market is a living thing, and the nuances are amazingly complex. In this case, it's a waste of time to just say, "Competition is great! Go team free market!" It's no where near that simple.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
In this you are right, however, the government isn't interested in profit, they are only interested in spending humongous amounts of money that they take from US. It has been that way throughout history, still.
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Some members of the government are interested in spending a lot (Republicans in the white house) and some aren't (Democratic Senators). We live in strange times.