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Old 10-09-2007, 08:11 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
I am open to discuss my beliefs and why and how I came to my beliefs... but I expect the ones I am talking to, to have the respect I show them and to teach me as I teach them. Not shove shit down my throat and expect me to eat it without question and bow down to their beliefs. You won't change what I believe or how, but I may learn some very interesting things and I am always open to that. Again, IMHO, life is about learning from each other... not demanding and trying to prove the "I'm right you're wrong" ego feeding bullshit.

But when one want to shove "scientific proof" down another's throat and tell them that their beliefs are wrong, then they react in a negative manner. Negativity begets negativity and it repels any positive action that can take place. (BTW that's Science in action there....like patterns and actions are drawn to each other, opposites repel each other.)

So we can get out of this thread, that scientifically there is nothing to prove that astrology, ESP, life on other planets, any paranormal, metaphysical, occult study or even a God exists, however, unlike those with small minds who rely solely on Science, I choose to believe that perhaps they do exist we just are not open enough as a society or intelligent enough as a society to understand them. Thus what we cannot explain we decide to label as impossible, old wives tale, etc etc so that we can feed the ego of MAN and ourselves.

In the end it comes down to this, one must ask themselves why they are so eager to destroy the beliefs of others, especially when those beliefs do not even affect you.
Pan, as someone who stopped posting after the first page, I like this post. This thread has evolved from a question on whether or not astrology is accepted here into a revalation of core beliefs and their bases.

Discussion of religion, which in a certain light includes both astrology and hard science, is always difficult to balance. You can see that in this thread over and over because there are two fundamentally opposed worldviews colliding here. One approaches the universe accepting only what can be observed and the other certain that the unobservable exists. We are all gradations of the extremes, but I think you've nicely summed up one of the fundamental missions of TFP with your offer to discuss the what's and why's of your beliefs.

I shall return to interested observation mode.
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