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No, I know exactly what was being said. It'll show later in this reply.

Here goes:

Who's evidence? If you believe in God, you cannot see, taste, hear, or physically "feel" God. It cannot be proven that you do. Yet millions of people throughout history have believed in some form they have, and it gave them hope and helped their lives. There are those who say that because of their belief they were able to stop drugs, that their diseases went away, that they became better people. Not by some scientific equation, but by their belief in a God, that there is no physical, scientific evidence to support.

Admittedly, it has also been the means for governments and the power hungry to create wars. Try as one might, you will never stop a religion. People will always practice their religion, they just may do so underground.

Better example: I have a seriously bad day. I come home, have read books that talk about the metaphysical energies given off by crystals. They offer suggestions but recommend you experiment and find what combinations work for you.

My combination is thus: I grab my Kyanite necklace put it on, grab my Lepidolite and Malachite place them in my palms, kneel in my "altar" surrounded by differing Quartzes, raw emeralds, rubies, etc etc all placed in ways that I found through experimentation to be the most effective way for me. I clear my mind, being fully aware of what is around me, but I allow myself to draw the natural healing energies from the rocks. I believe the rocks have calmed me and helped me, my attitude has changed, my physical appearance has changed.

Have they truly helped me? The scientific community can say it is all psychological and that it worked solely because I wanted it to and I changed myself.

But, I had to work to find the right combination. I worked to find the right stones and place them in the right areas. Before I got the desired results I had to experiment and did so each time expecting "perfect results" only to find I needed to add or subtract or move something until I found the combination that attuned with my senses and psyche.

Now, to a scientist do I sound nuts? But yet, no matter how I got the desired results, I got them. Thousands of other people do also.

We like to explain away and dismiss that which we do not yet understand.

How do you explain away that which science cannot come up with answers for?

2 parachuters jump out of a plane 5,000 feet above the ground. Neither chute opens 1 plummets to his death, the other walks away with a coupld scratches maybe a broken limb or 2 but relatively ok. Science proves he should have been dead. Now what happens, when the man says he felt his God save him? How do you prove him wrong?

How do you explain away 10's of 1000's (probably far, far more than that) who yearly believe with their entire entity that they saw a ghost, talked to a dead relative, had a vision from God....etc.?

A personal experience: I have "dreams" of future events in my life. I can awaken write down my dream and then go back to sleep. 2 days later, my wife, someone I am close to have that event, that I CANNOT have control over, and I tell them I dreamed it happening and show them the slip of paper I wrote 2 days before. Say that event was being stuck exactly for an hour in traffic because of a traffic jam AND I wrote down the exact conversation we would have. (Now, yes, one could say I could control the conversation... perhaps.) I'm not the only one to have ever had this experience or who experiences it. But what's the scientific explanation?

Who's rational thought?

Man for thousands of years desired to fly but the "evidence" proved that he never would be able to. People, scientists in their day, tried hard as Hell to fly... only to fail. But, people never gave up on the idea, never allowed "science's" rational thought that stated man could never fly sway them, and eventually, we are able, within hours, to fly not only anywhere on Earth but to the moon and now it is a matter of finding the materials, money and so on to move onto Mars. 150 years ago the scientific community would have laughed at those ideas.

50 years ago the idea that we would be able to have wireless portable computers would have been laughable to the scientist. It would be near impossible. But by finding the right radio waves, working on a solution and the belief some had that it could be done, it has become reality.

If forces act on everyone equally then the second above parachuter would have died with his friend. Everyone would get cancer from smoking, everyone who gets Ebola would die. And so on.

And yet, there are those occurrences that have no logic or scientific evidence to base the result upon. BUT THEY UNDENIABLY EXIST. But because we do not have the technology, or we have lost that part contact with that part of our mind, soul, spirit, Earth connection, God connection.... whatever: it is a freak experience and just one of those scientific oddities that can be explained but "we just don't have time to explain it" or "you wouldn't understand".

My point is simple, our beliefs create the reality we control in our lives. I believe that both science and the paranormal, "occult", metaphysical... whatever you desire to call it, can and do coexist and draw strength and weakness from the other. That if you believe in just one and not the other you are doing yourself a disservice. I truly believe you cannot have one without the other in a growing society.

If you rely only on "God" explanations, you open society up to be controlled by "those God put in charge". If you rely solely on a "scientific" explanation of everything you take out "the human factor" and if it is something that cannot have the results duplicated and be controlled it must not exist or be some "fluke". Sole belief in just one or the other, takes away abstract thinking, individuality, that which makes us, us.

Scientifically all kisses set about the same chemical reaction in everyone... yet, situations, psyche and so on also affect one's reaction to that kiss. You may have scientific answers for half the reaction but the other half... there is no explanation for and delve all you want, study, try hard and come up with all the theories that make you happy... the non-chemical, purely emotional, situational, psyche reaction will stay unexplainable.

I also believe that by creating an atmosphere where people can talk about their experiences and be able to work through them without being mocked without being harassed, without being told they are freaks, nuts, etc.... we as a society gain because eventually, some of what is believed "scientifically impossible" may tomorrow be "scientific fact".

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"