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Originally Posted by raveneye
Nice quote. Note the part about "reconciling scientific evidence with common sense". Here's an example. You claim that El Nino could be a contributor to global warming. Well, the scientific evidence concludes that El Nino has no affect whatsoever on global temperature. How about common sense? El Nino is a local shift in wind and sea currents. Does common sense tell you that a shift in wind and sea currents can cause an increase in global temperature? No. Did anybody notice a change in global temperature coincident with El Nino? No.
That's one example of many. Being a critical thinker does not mean you accept any group thinking. However, it does certainly imply being aware of the scientific evidence. You, obviously, are not.
I never stated you were being irresponsible. I stated that it would warm the cockles of my heart of you were to reflect on the meaning of "responsibility" in a wider context. Where in that statement is there any accusation of irresponsibility, or any accusation of groupthink?
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Again, scientists of past believed the world was flat and that stars revolved around the earth. Planets had epicycles that explained how they moved across the skys. There was scientific evidence that proved what they stated. Even Aristole's idea of parallax showed "common sense" applied to the current scientific body of evidence.
I did NOT state that El Nino was responsible for global warming, I cited it to state that there are small trends withing the cycles. Trends that people did not understand nor get for many decades and still don't really understand just what it means within the larger scope of things. They think they understand it. El Nino is not just about sea currents, the sea temperature CHANGES and increases thus fish in the souther part of Baja California and Mexico are suddenly found much more north than their normal habitat.
I'm sorry, you're stating that I'm not aware of the scientific items. I admit I'm not a scientist nor propose to be one, but where do I state I don't know or am not aware of the scientific evidence. I again have stated I don't doubt that human factors contribute to what is the larger trend. I just don't agree that humans are the cause of the trend. Which is what I read when someone touts things stating, "CO2 emissions from human beings cause global warming."
Asking me to reflect on responsiblity in a wider context express in some fashion that I'm irresponsible, or there is some irresonsible action going on.
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