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Old 10-07-2007, 09:45 PM   #104 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Sorry your wife is upset, but its still not real.

You are right in that I don't want to take too much time in this, I did once and the post got screwed up and I'd rather not waste it again.

Part of the evolution in human thought is getting rid of the nonsense. Astrology falls under that umbrella. Its an old superstition which has been exploited and abused on a gullible public for centuries. This doesn't make it valid, it makes it a good scam.

First, my wife can take care of herself and has nothing to do with my posting... but you'll believe what you want, regardless of proof or truth. Hmmmm.....

See we differ on evolution and our visions.

Your vision sounds to me like wanting everyone to think like you, to act like you and to not look for answers and explore what is around them.

My vision is more simplistic, believe what you want and how you want as long as you do not push your beliefs on me. I won't debunk your beliefs, because I have my own and to be honest, I don't care what yours are, so why do you care what mine are?

Not to sound like an old Steve Martin routine but "Science is pure impuricism and by virtue of it's method it totally excludes metaphysics"

I think it may be safe for me to assume from previous posts in other threads and this that you wish to believe in only what you can see, hear, touch, and physically feel. Cool, that's you man and God bless ya. (Wait God doesn't fall into any of those categories for you, as I believe you are an admitted atheist... so bless yourself.)

I choose to believe in things until proven they don't exist. I believe in life on other planets, I believe in other dimensions, I believe that everyone has some form of psychic powers and we are very limited in the power of our minds because we have been taught for generations to be, I believe there is some truth to any old wife's tale, to the dragon's of yore, to the Gods of the ancient civilizations, in reincarnation, in fate/destiny and in magic.

I choose to believe in those because for me it makes life more enjoyable and less of a bore. If I can sit and daydream about life elsewhere or sit for an hour and meditate and believe my soul has been healed and I am in a better place psychologically and physically, then I have all the proof I need.

If I go to get my palm read or my star chart done or my tarot read and I like what I hear or see and I believe them and in some way I find satisfaction in it because it gives me a sense of security in how I am living my life, then, that's all I need.

On the other hand, if I choose to want to prove them wrong because I don't like what I see and I work to change things in a positive way... then whether they were fake or not it inspired me to change. And anything that inspires positive changes is a good thing.

And again, as long as one doesn't preach to know what belief is best for others.... I don't care what others want to believe.

It's like I tell Jehovah's Witnesses.... I believe in my reality, you believe in yours... our realities may touch but I promise I won't force mine on you so long as you don't force yours on mine.
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