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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
As I've been reading through this thread, and remembering comments made in other threads, I've been connecting some dots in my head. These may be some convoluted dots, to be sure, but it's beginning to creep me out regarding the attitudes some of us have.
We'll argue that a corporation can pretty much do what it pleases to us because they're not the government. Our posts indicate that we take a hard-ass line with what we consider punk ass kids who commit crimes and support their being tried as adults.
Then, we have this guy in this thread, and we say shit like, "He was just a kid." or "He was only 19," or "He was just following orders."
Couple that with our otherwise typically hostile attitude towards illegal immigrants.
What the fuck is going on with us?
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You will note my position is consistent.
Also at the time he committed these actions, he was true 'target'. His death would have been part of the war had he not surrendered.
To be a valid comparison we would have to be talking about the greenpeace hooligans 70 years from now being rounded up in put in jail for their little demonstration.
I think you are being a little melodramatic over this. Some people think that time alone will 'heal all wounds' and since the guy wasn't directly involved with the killings he should get off the hook. I'd want to know more myself before I'd say that. How were these dogs trained to kill? On test subjects? If so then this guy needs the boot for sure. If not then while I think maybe hes getting a bit of a raw deal, he should still be deported. This is arguing over a 65 year old crime though.
Immigration and the greenpeace just happened. Some would argue that deporting this old man would really do nothing, and they are correct in that it does no benefit to current society, while punishing illegal immigration or protests would make a difference.
I don't think tfp has lost its 'way' at all, its pretty much as its always has been. If everyone were of the same mind there would be no point in discussing it.