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Originally Posted by dc_dux
ace...you dont think its political bullshit to compare accidental deaths to deaths by hostile action,
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Context. Context. Context.
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"Bringing troops home "to make them safe" is a weak argument." BigBaldRon
"So they're not safer in the US than they are in Iraq?" Will
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Then I say: "Soldiers die in combat but they also die for other reasons."
Perhaps, the problem is that no one defined what they meant by "safer". If the question is: What is the increased risk of being killed or injured as a soldier in Iraq compared to being a civilian or a soldier deployed in a non-combat arena, that is something that can be calculated. Therefore, I would not agree with your comment above.
And, I think you purposely took the exchange out of context, indicating a level of intellectual dishonesty on your part. Yes, you can consider that a personal attack. I consider it an honest assessment.
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Originally Posted by willravel
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you don't care enough about the troops to want them to be safe, and you can't make a reasonable excuse for that so you make a weak strawman.
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Perhaps, you should explain what is meant by wanting "them to be safe"? Then we determine if my point is a strawman, and if so get to the real issue which I think is the fact that Democrats don't have the courage to act on their beliefs. And that they in fact created a "let keep our troops safe" bull shit straw man argument rather than taking direct action to stop the war.
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Or, you can actually answer my question. My convictions include but are not limited to wanting Americans not to die or be injured because some rich white people want to be more rich.
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If you think that is the reason for the war in Iraq, why not join the fight against those "rich white people". Obviously you don't think they have your interests in mind.
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Not only should we have never invaded, but we shouldn't be there now. We're just another sect in the war.
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Why haven't your Democrat friends done anything about it? Wasn't the the original point. I am giving you valuable insight.