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Originally Posted by filtherton
You know the 35w bridge had about 140,000 people cross it every day and was 40 years old and was also undergoing fairly regular inspection. Bam, indeed. I thought you were a disciple of science here, that's not a very scientific strategy. One might even call it irrational, though i wouldn't.
You're reaching here if you can't acknowledge that you don't have any way to know whether a bridge will collapse while you are on it.
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And what are the odds of a bridge collapsing while I'm under it? 58 out of all major bridges in the world have ever collapsed. That's it. Statistically speaking, I'm safe. I have every way to know based on precedence.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
There's a difference between having experience as a theist and thinking that the experience that you had as a theist is functionally equivalent to the experience of every other theist ever. You went to church for 17 years. So what? That doesn't mean that you're qualified to claim that every theist automatically looks to god before anything else when they come into contact with uncertainty, which is what it seemed like you were trying to claim up above in #40.
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Likewise.
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No, i'm talking about you, existing. Anything existing. Nothing spiritual. Prove it. Use science. GO!
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You're asking a vague question. What do you mean by existing?
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Nope, things that don't exist tend not to exist. Things whose existence is unsubstantiated tend to either remain unsubstantiated, or somehow get "evidenced" into acceptance. C'mon man, if you're going to try to champion science, at least try and be a bit scientific about things.
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If we're talking about quantum physics, then matter tends to exist. What I'm talking about is way more basic. No real evidence exists to suggest that the JudeoChristian god exists, yet people say he's real. That's no logical or reasonable. Reason dictates that if something exists, in order to demonstrate or prove it's existence there is evidence. I exist from your perspective because there are words being typed in argument against your points. Since words don't come from nowhere, and even complex computers can't formulate arguments like this, reason dictates that you're arguing with at least someone. If you were ever in the area and we bumped into each other, your eyes would provide evidence that I was real. You must understand that you can trust your eyes, otherwise how can you believe what they read in the bible?