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Old 10-02-2007, 06:47 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten
Well, I think I may have overstated the case. I should clarify -- there is a certain lurid nature to the "energy cartel" theory that makes it interesting to me, if for nothing more than its dramatic nature. However, certain individuals have come forward with some compelling arguments about why advanced technologies -- regardless of their origin -- would be suppressed.

In a nutshell, the prediction is that a revolution in the energy sector would lead to the collapse of the current paradigm, which would have wide-ranging and unpredictable effects on the global economy and even society.
I just don't buy it. If tomorrow you worked out a 'Mr. Fusion' it would be an amazing boon to the economy. Imagine if energy costs went to zero? Its already been demonstrated that high energy costs hurt the economy, but I can't see the reverse doing the same. Sure it would close down refineries and oil wells, but thats a small price for free energy.

Really if I wanted to invent a plausible reason for suppressing alien technology it would be due to the danger they might pose, not because of the economy. If it was very easy to turn your 'Mr. Fusion' into a 'Mr. Fusion Bomb' then there would be a legitimate reason to suppress it, but that angle is rarely advanced. I think the reason for it is that the concept of the government protecting its citizens and the world from direct harm is boring. Its much more sexy to be talking about deeply woven conspiracies.

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Note that Deyo does not pinpoint the technologies as coming from alien civilizations. He does not discount the idea, but he doesn't feel it's necessary. This segment is about twenty minutes long. I find the details of his professional career to be hard to swallow, but I think it's important to see the whole interview, to get the context for his extrapolations. It was conducted thirty years ago, yet it is (in my opinion, at least) surprisingly prescient.
Well I agree that it wouldn't be necessary, but that doesn't make it true either.

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I'm not sure what thats suppose to prove. Its writing style reminds me of conspiracy or communist web sites where they attempt to confuse the issue using vocabulary the average reader will not understand in order 'overwhelm' the reader into assuming their assumptions are correct by making the reader feel inadequate of understanding. The difference is that unlike a conspiracy or communist site, where I do understand the vocabulary, this one I do not. Too many acronyms and " This paper summarizes how electrodynamics and gravitation are coupled in a Hamiltonian formulation followed by an appropriate quantization scheme." type of articles. Mind you I am not a stupid man but I am not a physicist, as such I can't tell if the papers are either highly technical or just technobable worthy of star trek. In that I will reserve judgment.

What I don't see is how this ties in with an alien technology. If I take it at face value, something I am very skeptical about and perhaps I will do a bit of research into the site itself for fun, its simply a lot of theoretical physics. The fact that I don't understand it doesn't make it alien based, most people wouldn't understand my 'language' I use at work to do my job either.
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