Originally Posted by MrFriendly

Like dirtyrascal7, I would also recommend people read The Game.

The writer goes on to point out how becoming a pick up artist started to alienate him more from women than ever before, and that although he now found it easier to pick up women and get them into bed, he still had no real clue how to keep them for any length of time.

What I loved about the book was that he came across someone he really did want to be with and had a connection with and all his little tricks went straight out the window and he was back to square one.

I can certainly understand guys who don't have a lot of confidence needing something to break the ice when talking to women, and having something in which to develop their confidence. But I just find the whole way the culture of pick up artists go about it to be way too cold and clinical. This idea that the opposite sex is to be conquered, with sex being the entire objective using trickery and what I consider mind control is a little sad and pathetic.