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oooh shani. i understand and concur. its a totally different bird, and im being told how freaking immature i am, when the imms that have said so could have responded to my post with "shame you feel that way, you might (but how are we to know) be missed in chat. oh well. your loss" and moved the hell on, but , they didnt, encouraging this lovely tangled mess that this thread has become
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