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Old 09-26-2007, 12:43 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by guccilvr
The thing is, that there are too many people who don't think they are fat, or lazy or ignorant. If the subject comes up then I'll say what I want to say. What's the difference in me saying "I think you could lose weight" vs "I think you're fat"? It says the same thing. If the person takes offense towards it, then that's their own problem. People have become too PC and defensive when it comes to their problems and lives and it's created too many problems. As I said, people should take a more honest and blunt approach towards <i>themselves</i> first.. then if it needs to be directed towards others..then so be it.
What people? All people? Or just some people?

Are you suggesting we take the lowest road possible with all people because some people have illusory perceptions about themselves and the image they portray?

And for the record, I have never met a fat person who didn't know they were fat. I've met fat people who are comfortable with their image and don't care what other people think, but none who are under the impression that they are anything but fat. And I'm not talking about people who are 20-30pounds 'overweight,' I'm talking about people who are, indeed, fat.

And are you suggesting that the only reason someone would be averse to being called fat, especially in public, is because they are not honest with themselves and their fatness? I call bullshit. It is because they are human and everyone experiences some level of distress at having their flaws and weaknesses paraded around by others - it makes them feel separate and estranged, even if just for a moment. You know, empathy is good. We have it for a reason.

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I've never said that a person being fat makes me uncomfortable.. they are fat.. it's their problem.. not mine. I'm just saying if they ask me if they are fat I will tell them they are. An employee asks me what I think of an idea.. I tell them honestly. Alot more seems to get done that way.. whether they call me an asshole or not.. the point was made and the results came.
No, sorry, you didn't say this. I was commenting on someone else's statement as an afterthought. I should have made that more clear.

Thinking about this more and more, for me, I think it's coming down to a common theory of mine about 'the cult of self' that seems to be so popular today. And in this instance it can be found in the idea that all of these thoughts and notions and perceptions and snap judgements that are constantly circulating in our heads are always important and meaningful. They're just not. Most of it is just useless bullshit and isn't deserving of the importance we place on it or the energy that is expended to push it out of our mouths. That's what this is coming down to for me.
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