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Originally Posted by willravel
Pickup artists are the worst kind of artificial. Instead of taking time to develop this facade, maybe they should spend time actually building their confidence, interests, and abilities. I can't imagine the artificial stuff really being able to last in a relationship, and that's pretty damn inconsiderate of the woman's feelings (or the man's, if you're a female pick up artist, which would be easy). Back in my day, a man would walk up to a woman he fancied and strike up an authentic conversation about something he was interested in that he figured that she might be interested in, too (a topic like, say, the lady in question). When he's approached her, he already has confidence, intellect, and something interesting to say. It's a part of who he is.
Yeesh.
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while I think that there is some validity to what you're saying, I can also see the other side of the coin. I am quite shy around strangers, so I'm usually quiet, and reserved...the things that I do say to people are very concise, and well thought out (probably so as not to expose any weakness). I usually come off as a prick (and not the likable kind) to people until they get to know me.
however, I can make very good conversation with people that I'm comfortable around, and am a genuinely nice guy.
now imagine me trying to meet a girl in a social situation like a party, etc. It would almost surely be a total cluster f*ck.
the people that I make friends with are almost always people that I have to see regularly (roomates, neighbors, maybe classmates, etc). and so I have a very narrow selection of women to choose from unless I develop some sort of technique for luring them in long enough to where they get to know me.
just as an idea...Im 21 and have had one "girlfriend". we had Spanish class together for a year...and she sat next to me...it was not until after the class was over that we began dating.