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Old 09-25-2007, 09:12 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
So you're giving into the fear-mongering "there's a terrorist out to get you" mentality? That's too bad.
I don't consider boarding a ship while carrying materials that could be used as weapons evidence of nonviolent intent. They claimed that they would engage in nonviolent protest and then took actions that can easily perceived as having potentially violent intent. That discrepancy is a warning sign that something may be seriously wrong, and it is reasonable to believe that such a drastic deviation from the announced action can be an indication tha a terrorist attack is imminent or in progress.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Believe it or not, I have no preconceived notions of Greenpeace. But there has been no shortage of preconceived notions of them being volleyed around from a negative standpoint on this thread.

I have preconceived notions about the practice of political protest. By whomever and wherever it may be taking place. That has been the sole point of departure from my very first post.
The general assumption made by supporters of this Greenpeace action is that because Greenpeace is known for taking drastic action to interfere with corporate action but taking care to avoid harming individuals, that the action is legitimate. I agree that legitimate Greenpeace members are unlikely to harm others, but I maintain my position that this was an act of piracy and that it is appropriate to react as if it were a worst case scenario.

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And what about anything I have said disagrees with this method of ending the protest? I was commenting on the remarks made earlier in this thread, yours included, that said these people should have been shot.

But I also made the comment, somewhere along the line, that I thought a lot of remarks made on this thread were disingenuous (for the most part, I was referring to the shooting remarks) and that I thought they had a fairly drastic warping effect on what could have possibly been a less heated discussion on the whole.
Maybe I went overboard by saying that they should simply be shot on sight, but I would not fault crew members for having reacted as if it were a worst case scenario when a peaceful action was announced and non-peaceful actions were taken.
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