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Originally Posted by pig
i don't think it's terribly germane to this argument, but whether or not we did something else for umpteen bajillion years or not isn't relevant. we used to beat our wimmins down if they gave backtalk too. societies change.
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"Things change" isn't a good reason why we as a society should allow something, as that can lead to a very slippery slope
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i have no fucking clue il. i can't seem to place a call to one to get a real clear bead on that. that is precisely the question, however - at least as far as i can tell. the important thing is this: i know i don't have a clue. i also know that you don't have a clue. neither of us has a clue. so we're back where we started - this isn't a scientific argument. it's an ethical / philosophical / perhaps spiritual argument, that we prance around in a scientific manner.
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But, you see, if you're in support of abortion then you obviously know as you make a distinction somewhere, so I'd like to know where that is. Yes, I realize that this is a ethical/philosophical argument. Ethically speaking, I'd like to think that most people wouldn't murder another person. Therefore, at what point do pro-abortionists believe a fetus becomes a person? It should be a rather simple question if you believe in abortion.
I'm not faced with this delimma as I believe a fetus is a person >_>