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Originally Posted by pig
il: we got along just fine without them for sixty years...first, no we didn't. different procedures, but i'm pretty sure that cultures have found ways of inducing stillborn children / miscarriages for a long time. women have aborted their children using less surgical techniques. i think what you mean is that our society hasn't overtly condoned them until recently, and even that is widely varied. see this thread for a microcosmic example of that dissent. taken out of the ethical realm you are claiming regardless abortions as 'right' or 'wrong,' your statement would seem to me to basically say 'we done fine so far with x, why can't we keep doing x?' which is essentially denying progress, or change if you prefer.
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*Ahem*
Before 1970, less than 1% of all pregnancies in the US ended in abortion (Not including miscarriages). In 1970, 4.9% of all pregnancies ended in abortion. In 2003 about 23.9% of all pregnancies ended in an abortion. That's an absolutely
HUGE percentage increase and, unless you're going to argue that before 1970 approximately 25% of the female population were self-aborting their unborn children, then I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say that the only progress which has been made is in increasing the number of people resorting to abortions per year.
Obviously, something is really wrong here when there were less abortions sixty years in the absence of contraceptives than there are today when there have to be no less than twenty different contraceptive methods.
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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
It took you less than an hour to completely contradict yourself. I'm not sure you have any idea what you're talking about, but you seem to thrive on using baiting tactics in your arguments. Are you here for grown up discussion or do you have something you feel you need to prove?
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Pardon me, but where's the contradiction? And baiting...? Yeah, ok. If you want me to start baiting, I will. Anyway, for your viewing pleasure:
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54 countries allow abortion, which is about 61 percent of the world population. 97 countries, about 39 percent of the population, have abortion laws that make it illegal according to the pro-abortion Center for Reproductive Law and Policy in New York.
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Because, you know, at least one of us has to pull up statistics.
Edit: I'm also pretty sure I posted this earlier, but if not... Within the United States, support for abortion remain conditional. That is, people support them in the cases of rape or where it poses a thread to the mother's life. When they're used for a matter of convenience, support for them plummets. That's nice to know, considering that 98% of all abortions are done due a matter of convenience.
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When the woman's health or life is endangered, or when the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest, more than three-quarters of the public favors the option of abortion. But support falls to 34 percent when the reasons for having an abortion are economic (for example, if a family cannot afford more children).
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