09-25-2007, 08:32 AM
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Illusionary
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I apologize for the confusion. Hansen was a research associate at Columbia University at the time of the article in 1971. Rasool, in his research, used a computer program model developed by Hansen.
Hansen's model either was wrong then or he his wrong now. Like I wrote it would be nice if he came forward and explained how he came to new conclusions.
Please understand the model in question was developed for the planet Venus, and the correlation to Earth climate was nothing but a Hypothesis..as stated by the scientist who placed it on the table.
Regardless, the main point is still on the table. Is global warming and it cause worthy of discussion and further scientific evaluation or has the question been settled?
Healthy debate is always a worthwhile venture, but for the most part the issue of "If" its a reality that our climate is changing has indeed been settled.
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I re-read what I wrote and actually think it is clear. I asked if it was an error on his part, which is a legitimate question in the context of his involvement. And given his model, it appears to be wrong given his current position. He should explain the discrepancy or explain why his model then did not support the conclusions drawn from it. All fair and reasonable comments on my part.
Again...please recognize the intent of the Model.
What bothers me is the name calling when someone even suggests the possibility that the globe is not warming or that "man" may not be directly responsible. I think Hansen's model then and his views now illustrate how important it is to have an open mind on the subject, because after all, most of the data indicating correlations and predicting future trends are based on assumptions built into models.
I may be missing it, but at no point did I intentionally call you a name, in fact I dont resort to such tactics as a rule. Those that do such things tend to discredit themselves in a debate.
Questioning scientific findings is commonly accepted in the scientific community, if you have a problem with that - it is your issue.
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I was not questioning the science, rather your interpretation of the Data. Quite simply put you are incorrect in the assumption that Hansen made any claim whatsoever in your post. The article (and you) try to tie him into a hypothesis put forward by another scientist simply based on the fact he created a computer model of Venusian climate used in the data stream...that makes no sense to me, and I felt it needed to be corrected.
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