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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
I understand them; I've been one. I understand that taking drastic action is sometimes justifiable, and I also understand that taking drastic action can result in harm or death to the actor. Piracy in sovereign waters is one of those actions that can result in serious harm, and those engaging in piracy as a form of protest ought to expect that the target of such action is legally permitted to use lethal force against the perpetrators.
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Fortunately, we're not talking about piracy in this case, as I've pointed out a few times, most notably in post #70 where I point out that the boarding of the vessel has to be "committed for private ends". We can both plainly see that there is no private profit for GreenPeace from this. They're spending time and money in order to bring about public change. What this means is that there isn't legally permitted lethal force. Had they consciously murdered any of the peaceful protesters, they should be charged with first degree and sent to prison.
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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
Announcing that you are a member of Greenpeace does not mean that you are a member. A group intent on destroying or stealing cargo can easily announce that they are with Greenpeace, then board the ship and act in a way highly inconsistent with Greenpeace's philosophy after putting the crew at ease. Boarding a ship is an act of piracy regardless of intent. If I were on board a ship that was subjected to an act of piracy after intent to peacefully protest was announced, I would assume a worst case scenario was occurring and respond accordingly.
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Again, as I've said several times, never in history has anyone said they were representing GreenPeace and been lying.
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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
The second part is a flawed analogy. Greenpeace clothing is not available exclusively to members. There is no way to stop a terrorist group from joining Greenpeace, loading up on Greenpeace merchandise, disguising themselves as peaceful protesters, and carrying out a terrorist attack, just like insurgents in Iraq who steal Iraqi police uniforms or join the Iraqi police with the intent of carrying out attacks in disguise.
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So you're giving into the fear-mongering "there's a terrorist out to get you" mentality? That's too bad.