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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
I encourage people to have those who practice astrology do a reading for them. If Lady Sage is willing to do readings for members, especially new members with which she has had no personal contact and does not know from the board (reducing the chance that what she knows about them will influence her,) and those members make an honest comparison of the reading to reality, we can make a small effort to judge it, albeit with a small sample of the general public that is not particularly representative of that public.
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Watch that last Youtube link I posted and tell me if you feel the same way.
I'll summarize for you though. Basically four or five people (I forget) in 3 different countries (so 15 total, or 12 or whatever) were given the exact same 'reading' only they didn't know they all got the same reading. Originally they were told to give birth date, a hand drawing, and something personal and put in an envelope. They then said how accurate the reading was. Most said 80+% one said 99% and the one male that seemed to be heterosexual said 40%. At any rate they were all shocked (except for the one male) when they read everyone else's readings and found they were identical, and it woke them all up to what the reality is. The first youtube video is of he same phenomena.
One of those personal 'touches' was something about wanting to write a novel but them not taking the time to do so because they didn't feel they could. I found this to be amusing because I started doing something like that a few years ago, figured out writing was really 'work' and never followed up. My guess is among people over a certain education level, the desire to write is pretty common.
Now in the videos these were skeptics out to prove how easy people are fooled by astrologers and the like, but even an honest but vague 'reading' would produce a number of hits. We are all human, we all have the same issues to some extent, and even if something isn't spot on, its not hard to wiggle it until you can see how it fits in hindsight.
I'd be far more impressed if you took 20 astrologers and could find some sort of consensus in method or results. Then I'd elevate it to something like phrenology. Still not valid but at least reproducible.