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Old 09-24-2007, 07:37 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by omega48038
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Service

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188

Statistics courtesy of the FBI
You left out the best (most humorous) part of this widely circulated message that has been around for several years.....always without a source:
Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. As a public health measure I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical attention.
No...the stats of accidental deaths by physicians are not from the FBI.

Here is one conclusion: the most dangerous weapon in the hands of the public is information without a source.
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Since no source is provided for these statistics, I turned to a series of Internet searches to see if I could find their origins - and wound up founding lots of copies of this chain. In the rare cases where an attribution was given, it ranged from a Seattle newspaper, to a St. Louis TV News program, to a New York sportsmen's club. None of these checked out.

The most frequent (and most likely) attribution I found was to the November 17, 1999 issue of the Benton County News Tribune. Unfortunately, the News Tribune does not have a Web site and the paper has not responded to my inquiries.

The most recent independent statistics I can find to validate the claims in the above chain date back to 1996.

While the anonymous author's conclusions seem obvious, this information proves nothing. People who have gathered in chat rooms to discuss this message have proposed many arguments against the claims made in this note, including:

* "What exactly is an 'accidental death?'"
* "When people see a doctor, they are usually in poor health to begin with, so failing health has to be considered at least partially responsible for those deaths."
* "What about those instances in which guns are used to intentionally cause death? I only know of one doctor who intentionally causes death - Jack Kevorkian."
* "There are quite a few people who will go through life without encountering a person with a gun. Far fewer go through life without seeing a doctor. Thus, more deaths can be attributed to doctors because it's statistically more likely."

Interestingly, this information is posted on literally hundreds of sites for a broad range of purposes. Some used it to point out the futility of gun control legislation, others use it as an argument for stronger malpractice laws and regulation of the medical community or to promote alternative medicine. A few identified it as humor. One site even disclaimed that the information was provided to demonstrate that both physicians and gun owners do more good than harm!

I once heard a a politician say "Give me the statistics and I'll tell you what to think of them." I guess he was right. Break this chain!

References: None
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/drguns.html
If you have an FBI or Uniform Crime Reports source, you would be the first!
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