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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I dont give a fuck about comparing GDPs.
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If we are to understand how to best allocate national resources, given legitimate models in other nations for comparisons, how can it be avoided? Or do you simply have a special interest or political agenda that is your top priority?
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The facts are clear that health care costs in the US have been rising at twice or three times the rate of inflation or cost of living for many consumers.
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No one has disputed that.
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And the facts are clear that the health care costs of the growing number of uninsured are partly responsible for higher premiums for the insured.
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You and Will have a pattern of sometimes talking about health care insurance and what is covered by insurance vs. health care costs and seem to interchange the two as if they are the same. If you are talking heath care insurance, insurance premiums are high for a number of reasons, some not related to the uninsured.
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I think health care reform will be the top domestic issue on the mind of many voters in the 08 election and I want to see how the candidates will address the issue. Bitching about Hilary's plan is not a solution.
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Personally I have not "bitched" about her plan. In fact you won't find any post where I have even commented on her plan. For the record there are some good points to her plan in my opinion.
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Many of the candidates will be participating in webcasts sponsored by the Federation of American Hospitals and Families USA where each will have an opportunity to explain their position on health care reform in more depth. I'll be tuning on, starting with John Edwards today.
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Should be interesting to see if Edwards addresses medical malpractice and medical related litigation and how he would plan on controlling those run away costs in our system.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Consider the numbers: Of the nearly 47 million without insurance in 2006: 36+ million are native born or naturalized citizens and more than half worked (mostly full-time, but some partt-ime) during the year.
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What percentage of those people make over $50,000 per year and could actually buy medical insurance but don't want to? Or is that question to, "GDPish" for you? Or is that me "redirecting" the discussion? Or, me bashing Clinton? Or, me cherry picking data? Can't wait for being told what my problem is today.
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To ignore the larger issue is to let the costs to all Americans keep rising at more than twice the rate of inflation or cost of living.
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Who is ignoring the "larger issue"? Are we not allowed to ask questions? Are we not allowed to express concerns?
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Originally Posted by willravel
Don't forget that capitalism only works when it's pure competition. If competitors come together and agree to raise prices, or if their suppliers all raise prices, then you don't see the drive down in prices like one might expect when businesses are competing over customers.
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What?!? You almost never find "pure competition", in this country or anywhere else with high levels of government regulation. this nation has done pretty well with our form of capitalism. Makes me wonder when I read statements like the one you make here.