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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
So will speaking specifically to the white orbs being seen any guess as to what they are.
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Speaking as to likelihood's, it's difficult to compare something like chilled superconductor disc technology to the likelihood of extra terrestrial life can't really work because we don't have enough information to postulate as to the likelihood of extraterrestrial life, let alone their technological sophistication. It could be man made, and it wouldn't be surprising if it was, would it? I'm sure there are technologies that the military has that we don't know about, and developing aircraft that can move so fast as to dodge projectile weapons like missiles would be very useful.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Will, out of all our arguments, I'm not calling you ignorant. But I'm surprised at that statement.
Granted I can't prove it, but all the same, I envoke the almighty drake equation, which put against our galaxi is roughly (and feel free to help me out/correct me).....
X amount of stars in our galaxies, Y amount with planets, Z amount of stars similar to our own (the kind that allow for life), W where planets surround said star, L where life has formed on planet, E where life has evolved to a stable point, I to where life is at a cognizant intelligent point, to ET where they can rock and roll...
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With our current level of knowledge, L and E cannot be guessed with any reasonable reliability because we only have one planet with with to compare all planets with. Life could be very, very, very rare, the universe making it almost impossible to develop, or life could be very simple, and it could develop all the time. Why is it that we don't know? We've yet to see any evidence or scientific data about life from any other world for which to verify our theories about how life can develop. It appears we were an amazing fluke. It, according to what we know now, took quite a few (millions, billions) very specific circumstances to allow for life to develop, and there's really no way to know how often those conditions are met elsewhere, or even if we took the only path.
Just so you know, the Drake Equation isn't really something useful. I'll quote writer Michael Crichton on the subject: "Speaking precisely, the Drake equation is literally meaningless, and has nothing to do with science. I take the hard view that science involves the creation of testable hypotheses. The Drake equation cannot be tested and therefore SETI is not science. SETI is unquestionably a religion."
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Roughly 200 billion stars in our solar system, not using my bunk ass system but legitimately using the legimate drake equation conservately there are roughly some 200 thousand planets that would support intelligent life.
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Replace "would" with "could", and then remember that everything from the thickness of the atmosphere to liquid water were necessary for life on Earth. Some have even postulated that we developed from extraterrestrial bacteria. That could complicated the matter significantly, because then we really don't know where life came from.
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Originally Posted by LoganSnake
While there's no concrete proof, denying the possibility of intelligent life in the vastness of space is pretty, well, selfish. I don't believe that the human race is so blessed as to be the only intelligence (if you can call it that) in the universe. You can believe what you want, but I'm certain that we are definitely not alone.
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It's a good thing no one in this thread has said that there isn't a possibility of intelligent life in the universe:
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Originally Posted by Willravel
I see no evidence of extra terrestrial life. It could exist, I suppose, but right now they are the things of science fiction.
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Originally Posted by Willravel
A possibility is different than a certainty. There is a possibility that life has developed on another world or other worlds, but combining that possibility with the number of worlds (billions? trillions?) still doesn't create a certainty. Because we don't know what the possibility of life developing is (besides 1/n, where n = the total number of planets in the universe), we cannot apply a statistic to the number of planets. It's really that simple.
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Be careful not to confuse not accepting something completely for denying it. I don't deny the possibility.