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Old 09-22-2007, 07:25 AM   #165 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nimetic
Anti-freedom?

So those of us with government healthcare are slaves yes?

Some things to consider is how much you already pay for the military, for the police, for the prisons, and for the roads. All things that you pay for but which everybody uses.
Hear, hear.

I'd like to see all you freedom lovin' libertarians off the roads. Roads are (generally) built and run by the gummint, and we all know how slippery those slopes down to stalinist work camps are. No, people, railroads are not an option, what with all those gummint subsidies and gosh-durned regulations and red-tape and -- shudder -- uppity workers. Clearly the only Freedom-Lovin' option is for you all to negotiate deals with all Private Property owners on your various routes to work and theMarket entrepots. Remember to stay off the freedom-destroying, gummint mandated sidewalks, too. Enjoy your Freedom-enhancing, Private Property-Respectin' travels! Keep on Truckin'!

What people generally refuse to admit is that they pay for Other People's Stuff all the time already. That's capitalism, which can be understood as a system of partial socialisations. Don't like sports on TV? Don't like TV? or TV publicity? Too bad, you pay for all of it already every time you buy a six-pack of Swill. And since the makers of more tasty beverages consider the price of Swill when setting their own prices, the price of Swill does matter even to those who don't buy it. It works much the same way with health care; we pay for others' health care when we buy the products they produce. So burn your Benz, trash your BMW & Toyotas, smash your Honda and Chevy, they all represent molly-coddling & freedom-hatin' & payin' for other people's stuff.

We also pay for people NOT to have health care, in the shoddiness of the products they make. Their products are shoddy either because the people actually are sick or afraid of becoming so, or because they return the bare-minimum or, as is often the case, below-minimum investment in their social reproduction with a bare-minimum or below-minimum investment in their work.
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