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Old 09-22-2007, 01:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Daniel_
( 1 ) you have no idea if the file you're getting is what it claims
Not true if you use the right tools/sites. I haven't gotten a mislabeled file or trojan or virus in years
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( 2 ) it's impossible to do it with even a reasonable degree of anonymity.
This is true, but the odds of being "caught" are pretty slim. Private trackers, in particular, while not immune to the **AA, are less likely to have **AA agents on them. I've never heard of someone getting sued because of a file they downloaded off a private tracker.
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None of us know what laws covering old records will be passed (especially in the States), but should they pass retro-active ones, anyone that used P2P may find themselves on the wrong end of a RIAA suit.
This is why a lot of sites don't keep records for very long. If a law passes regarding access to old records, and those records only go back a week, it'll suck but it won't be terrible.

I'm not saying that you won't get sued by any means, just that if someone takes the proper precautions the chances are pretty low. To tie this back into the thread, using MediaDefender as an example, they were dealing with public trackers. And even then, it should be common sense not to download something that just came out off a public tracker.

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Originally Posted by connyosis
I absolutely believe that most people want to pay for their music/movies/games. They just don't want to be ripped off or fucked over by rootkits and DRM.
I download movies and such through bittorrent, but the second a DRM free decently priced legal alternative shows up, I'll stop. I doubt I'm alone on that one.
Absolutely. The fact is, media has been pushed on us so much that it has lost its worth to us, and our interest in paying for it reflects that. Music is everywhere, all the time - it's nothing special anymore, and it's generally just background for most people. Paying any more than $1 a song seems ridiculous in that context. There are so many television channels and television shows, and so many ads, people aren't interested in paying much for that either. $2 an episode is about the highest price reasonable IMO. The problems the entertainment industry faces have been caused by themselves: they've saturated the market and reduced the value of their products (shitty TV (not all by any means, but most), shitty movies (again, not all but most), shitty music (particularly the stuff that gets the biggest market push), and tons of ads. They've devalued their own products, and now they're paying the price because consumers aren't willing to pay the prices they demand, especially if there are limitations on what the consumer can do with their purchase after making it.
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