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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
Mr. Ravel, you are very much so correct, however, I have known a girl who got pregnant twice on the pill and twice on Norplant.
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You'd think she would have stopped using it after the first time. The pill clearly states that there is a failure rate.
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When contraceptive methods are ranked by effectiveness over the first 12 months of use (corrected for abortion underreporting), the implant and injectables have the lowest failure rates (2-4%), followed by the pill (9%), the diaphragm and the cervical cap (13%), the male condom (15%), periodic abstinence (22%), withdrawal (26%) and spermicides (28%)
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http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3105699.html
When you combine them, the failure rate drops off considerably, when they work at contraception from different angles. The condom stops most sperm, but if it breaks, it has to deal with spermicide and the pill. It's when you do your homework before you get to home base that you tend to be the most safe.
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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
It happens. There is always the argument about the pregnancy threatening the life of the motner and/or the child. Also, the child being born with deformaties and/or disease it can never hope to survive without insane amounts of pain and suffering. Why force the woman to go through carrying the child/ delivering the child all for naught?
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We're still talking about a small number with failed contraception and there are only a handful of deformity related abortions in the past 20 years.
An overwhelming amount of abortions are the result of unprotected sex. I take issue with killing a baby because Lolita didn't feel like taking a pill or Frank didn't want to wrap it up.
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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
I doubt I have to say this to you Mr. Ravel, but given previous circumstances, I shall. I am not raising the above to argue with you. I am merely trying to voice the other side. Nor am I trying to convert you to pro-choice. Perhaps to admit that there may be a time when an abortion may be acceptable.  |
There are some times when the mother isn't at fault. Rape (which includes incest because shagging your family member means your nuts, and shagging a crazy person is rape) deformation, and the mother being in danger means that the abortion isn't the mother's fault, but that still doesn't make it right imho.