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Old 09-20-2007, 01:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Fair enough Roachboy, one can make the argument that we are still in a Colonist style economic model. That we rule over other countries by economics, occasionally enforced by military measures. I can not dispute there are plenty of occurances in the Post-WWII era which reinforce this argument.

I am not attempting to post the occurances solely in the past, you must however, concede that the sins of the fathers are passed onto the sons in this situation.

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and i dont find the analogies that seaver tries to make convincing at all--the fact is that christian colonialism is so much more pervasive and was so much more self-righteously violent that it is unlike other forms of invasion/domination. to think otherwise is the same as arguing that there is no difference between a tiny stuffed toy elephant and an elephant. the elephant is simply more itself because it is better at being an elephant than the tiny stuffed toy elephant is.
When the Persian Kings conquored 1/3 of the known world at the time, that was not on the same scale of pervasiveness? When the Mongols conquored the Stepp, China, Persia, India, Baghdad, Damascus, and went all the way to the European border that was not pervasive? When the Aztecs conquored neighbor after neighbor in their drive to capture slaves for human sacrifice that was not pervasive?

I simply stated that the technological, social, and religious aspects came together within European-Western culture came together in a "perfect storm" if you will during a time of (re)discovery which is unlike anytime in human history. There is nothing more evil, spectacular, or in any way revolutionary in the White history as opposed to any other. There was a series of technological and sococial revolutions which occured first and most quickly in Western Civilization which expidited the same conquor-thy-neighbor human nature which exists anywhere.

While a bull mastiff and a rat terrier may look different, they're still dogs. They still bark/eat/poop/think the same, the bull mastiff simply wins out in a fight. Eventually there will be a different power and he will flex his muscles the same way.
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