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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Anytime someone tries to sell me on something, it's never what they sold me on.
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You've never bought a coke? Sounds to me like you're being over dramatic, and you're over simplifying.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
This is still the same point for me. I don't think that it will be $83 a month for anyone, or at least it's not going to be $83 for me, since the plan is based on percentage of income.
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I'm sure we've all seen the chart showing the Healthcare costs as a percent of GDP and Per capita expenditure on health (USD). Just to remind everyone:
Healthcare costs as a percent of GDP
Australia: 9.5
Canada: 9.9
France: 10.1
UK: 8.0
USA: 15.2
Per capita expenditure on health (USD)
Australia: $2,519
Canada: $2,669
France: $2,981
UK: $2,428
USA: $5,711
So let's stop pretending that you're going to be paying more in taxes for universal health care than is paid for the current system.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
A trillion dollars and higher taxes... that's all that I see there. You don't think that the people with $250k don't have power to lobby for less burden or tax breaks elsewhere.
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It's a shame that's all you see. The bigger picture is that we're saving trillions upon trillions that are paid per year in health care.