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Originally Posted by willravel
There are Constitutional backdoors for everything, including universal healthcare. One could easily interpret "promote the general welfare" to include, but not be limited to, universal healthcare. Boom, done. Constitutional.
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no wonder we're in such a mess.
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Originally Posted by willravel
It's not black and white. The US isn't socialist enough, of course, but we couldn't operate in a pure socialist system (if there is such a thing). What you said above is still meaningless. Government gave the world roads. So there, boom, you're wrong.
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so there were no roads at all until the idea of government was formed? seems mighty far fetched to me.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Socialism is anti-class by nature. Capitalism supports a class system by nature. It's not a rule, but they each tend to be that way in theory and practice. So, actually, universal healthcare is anti-classism. And you can see that in Canada, the UK, and especially France (where everyone is treated like they're millionaires, it's nuts).
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If you think that socialism is anti-class by nature, yet rich people can fly wherever they need to for the best care while the non-rich are confined to whats in the area for their care, then how can that truly be anti-class? If it was truly anti-class, then they'd have that level of care for all people, all the time.