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Old 09-19-2007, 07:07 PM   #76 (permalink)
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But violating or circumventing the constitution isn't one of them. You want universal healthcare supported by all of america? amend the constitution so that it states that every american has the right to medical care.
Universal healthcare doesn't violate the Constitution, and that's that. It's not a Constitutional issue at all. I was humoring you, but you need to realize that.
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There is not one recorded moment in history where 'more government' ever made things more free for the people.
Meaningless.
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There is a prescribed process for this change, as you well know. All too often though, the far left uses the judiciary to circumvent these changes because they know they don't have enough populace support to change said constitution.
The far left uses the judiciary? Like the far right uses the executive? What does that have to do with anything?
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Because you always state your ideas and goals as the end all/be all solution, that socialism would solve everything or that peaceful resistance solves everything. I'm merely showing you the chinks in your armor.
Weakest ad hominem ever. Want to answer my question?
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Think about this for a minute, exactly what you said. If socialized medicine were that great, then there would have been zero reason for this 'wealthy' individual to trek to the US for surgery. That alone should tell you that all socialized medicine did was reduce the quality of care overall so that everyone would have some. Is that what you want for us here?
Socialized medicine is better for the average person there, and it's better for the super rich here. I, alone, make over $150k a year. I still get shitty medical care. I was turned down for a surgery because it wasn't cost effective. I'm not a celebrity or super rich. I wonder why you'd want a medical system that is only adequate for ~2% of the population.
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