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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
and you think that you are smarter than they were? That YOU have the answer to all of the countrys problems where they had no clue?
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I know more about the 21st century then them. I'm more familiar with our current problems, and I'm more capable of coming up with solutions to these modern problems because I didn't die 200 years ago.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Seriously, I never said such a thing so I have no clue why you would try to put those words in my mouth.
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Reread your post:
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
You ask about relying on police and fire forces. I say no
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You do in fact rely on the services that the police (and for that matter firefighters) provide. To suggest otherwise is rather insulting to police and firefighters.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Police on the streets to regulate traffic and INVESTIGATE crimes, fine. I don't NEED cops to protect me when i'm fully capable of protecting myself.
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Those two things are linked, dk. The police officer pulls over the drunk drivers so he doesn't run you or your family over. To put it in language I think you may appreciate: they protect you and your family so you don't have to. You can act as a contingency all you want, but doesn't knowing they are there make you safer? I'm sure the answer is yes.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
If people would start being responsible for their own protection and safety instead of trying to pass it off on the government, there would be alot less spending and budget problems in localities. There would also be alot less crime, at least violent crime.
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Either the people pay the taxes to the government who is, based on what I see with police and firefighters, not trying to make a profit to fill, a CEO's 7 figure salary, or you pay a corporation who's goal is profit. Think about that. Imagine having to pay $300/mo for private services (for those who can't have guns or who aren't willing to kill).
I'm wondering something, how many fires can guns put out? We're concentrating on police, which creates an interesting take because you're a second amendment type, but do you have the knowhow to fight a 4 alarm fire? Do you have the tools and training necessary to protect you and your family from a fire?
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Providing for the general welfare is not socialism. It's not socialized roadways, it's public roadways for the express purpose of regulating commerce. Not to make YOUR travel easier.
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You're seeing a difference where there is none. Public roadways -> public healthcare. Same basic idea: we all pay into it a little so we all can use it.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
It's called knowing the constitution as a legal document, not as a so called 'living document'.
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It's called something? Okey dokey. The living part is the amendments (you know, like the second amendment?). The document can be changed and updated as needed, thus "living".
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
It has NOT been proven that socialized medicine works in every other western country when people have to wait excessive periods of time for care on certain issues.
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They don't. Go to the UK. But don't bring a gun, they don't allow those there.