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Originally Posted by willravel
Is this going to be one of those things where you tell everyone what you think the founding fathers were thinking?
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Normally, nobody should HAVE to tell you what the founders were thinking because it's all there in black and white.
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Originally Posted by willravel
The founding fathers weren't gods, and if they screwed up, it's up to us to fix it.
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and you think that you are smarter than they were? That YOU have the answer to all of the countrys problems where they had no clue?
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Originally Posted by willravel
So what are you doing to end mob violence in the great lakes areas? And what are you doing to prevent guns from getting into the hands of violent criminals? How many red light violators have you pulled over in the past month? Do you show up on command to the scenes of robberies, follow clues and collect evidence, make an arrest, and turn over the perp to the judicial system?
You, dk, are not a reasonable replacement for a real police force. Stop pretending you are. Seriously.
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Seriously, I never said such a thing so I have no clue why you would try to put those words in my mouth. Police on the streets to regulate traffic and INVESTIGATE crimes, fine. I don't NEED cops to protect me when i'm fully capable of protecting myself. If people would start being responsible for their own protection and safety instead of trying to pass it off on the government, there would be alot less spending and budget problems in localities. There would also be alot less crime, at least violent crime.
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Originally Posted by willravel
So you're saying the judicial system has never prosecuted a federal or state agency?
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As I brought up in another thread, that unless the situation is excessively egregious, no they don't. Look up Castle Rock v. Gonzales. The police are NOT responsible nor liable for your personal individual protection. They will not be prosecuted for failing to protect you from crime.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Yes, that's what taxes provide. Socialized roadways. What is happening? They tax us. They do their job, and we pay for it in taxes. That's how government works.
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Providing for the general welfare is not socialism. It's not socialized roadways, it's public roadways for the express purpose of regulating commerce. Not to make YOUR travel easier.
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Originally Posted by willravel
The right to life is in the Declaration of Independence. You know, the paper that explained why we wanted to start our own country?
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how is the right to life the same as a supposed right to medical care? Implying a right to medical care intimates that you should be able to go to a doctor, get cured, and not have to pay for it at all. Thats what a right is.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Oh my god. Unconstitutional? Where do you get the idea this is unconstitutional?!
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It's called knowing the constitution as a legal document, not as a so called 'living document'.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Healthcare already is ruined, and it's been proven in every other western country that universal health care works. Even governments much more poor than our own can easily afford it.
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It has NOT been proven that socialized medicine works in every other western country when people have to wait excessive periods of time for care on certain issues.