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Originally Posted by willravel
What we're all saying is that while you may have had that opportunity, not everyone else does. Some people are very much stuck and have zero options for getting health insurance. There's a reason 45 million Americans don't have health coverage, and I have to tell you it's not because they all just don't think they need it.
Complaint could easily end up with the person not only not having medical coverage, but food and a place to live.
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you know some of those stuck 45 million people are the people who didn't apply themselves in school. They didn't bother to take advantage of opportunities presented to them because maybe it was too far of a drive or commute or the work was too hard. Again, choices. When do you stop having to pay for the choices you've made in life? In my opinion, when they put the dirt on top of your cold dead body. Until that point in time, no sympathy from me as to the fact that your choices are limited by your education, your lack of skills, legal work status, or because your mom didn't hug you enough as a child.
Those that legitimately need some sort of healthcare are provided for, in NY state we have a program that provides healthcare for all children under a particular age. Medicaid paid for my grandmother who recently died, my current maternal grandmother and grandfather gets benefits. They MOVED from NY state to Las Vegas Nevada because the benefits and cost of living would be better for them.
Again, choices they made. For the children a social program to help them out since they don't have the capacity nor ability to deal with insurnace companies.
Disabled people? They have health coverage as well. My mother in law is covered by the state when she needs to see the doctor. It's a choice for her to make between buying something she wants (no not food or rent) and going to the doctor. Again, choices.
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Originally Posted by JustJess
Cyn, I'm glad you got out and moved up etc. I'm glad it seemed so easy to you.
It's not that easy for lots of people - it's a gross simplification of a complex issue.
That's why I posted all of that... everyone acts like if we just make a healthcare tax, magically it will work to have Universal Healthcare. That's just a fallacy. There are a lot of complications in the way of that.
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It was not easy. It was hard work and again it was choices.
There are people I know who were laid off in 2000 who still don't have jobs, not because they are lazy but because they choose not to work. They cannot command the same salary or title they had. So they have no healthcare coverage after COBRA stopped. They didn't even wish to take a temporary job. So they've sold their invenstments, dipped into their retirement funds.
I'm supposed to finance their healthcare when they are old? No thank you I'm not interested in helping someone that wasn't or isnt' interested in helping themselves.
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Last edited by Cynthetiq; 09-19-2007 at 10:54 AM..
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