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Old 09-18-2007, 04:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
ASU2003
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Originally Posted by cj2112
So if it's $380/year per person in the US, and only 1/3 work that means....let's see $380 x 3 = $1140 per working person. Why should the working individuals be forced to support those who don't work?
I don't know how many of those people are not children of a working parent(s), retirees, wealthy enough to not work, stay-at-home parents or other people that the worker cares about and would be willing to pay for?

Yes, there are a bunch of people who might be taking a break from work, raising a kid, or a bunch of other things that aren't offensive to society.

It is the slackers, drug-dealers, illegal immigrants, drug users, lazy people, and other people that would abuse the system and use more health care than they would pay for.

The other part is, would this drive innovations that cure disease instead of treating it? I doubt some cheap cure would come out right now, when they could get big $$$ month after month from treating the symptoms.

Whatever the outcome, I hope that the discussion is productive and people don't care about who has the ideas, but what their ideas are.


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Originally Posted by flstf
There was a special on 20/20 the other night where they pointed out that most insured people do not ask and do not care what medical procedures cost since insurance picks up the majority of the bill. Most people do not ask the cost and when asked most doctors do not know either. We were asked to imagine what would happen to the price of food if we had grocery insurance similar to the way most health care insurance works.
This is the other side of the coin. Would the government tell you which doctor to go to because they are the cheapest? Or would the government set the price that doctors can charge? I don't know how you would control prices and if the experience that doctors have, their success rates, how many patients they see, or what speciality they are would dictate how much they get paid. I would like to see a list from every doctor for how much they would charge for each procedure on-line. They can't do it now because there are different rates for different people and their insurance status. I don't have a problem with the amount of money that doctors currently make, or the quality of care. But it is the insurance companies and lobbyists that need to be dealt with.
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