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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Thats great and it does happen, our best friends are swingers, but its still the biggest complaint among swingers that forming friendships just doesn't happen often.
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This is very true, and it maybe that people "SAY they want an LTR with another couple/man/woman" But their actions don't jive with there desires
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Try going to a swing club. Just about all of them ban bi-male activities. Its economic, their clientèle as a whole doesn't want to see it, nor do they want to deal with gay prostitutes. If you think male bisexuality is accepted in swinging, you need to meet more swingers. Undoubtedly there are bi-males in swinging, but if you want to have fun, find a swinger web site and complain about the plight of the 'double standard' between bi males and bi females and see where that goes.
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Yes but they have bisexual clubs now a days and as far back as the 70's so I wouldn't agree. Everyone has to cater to their clients, you don't see gay men going to lesbian swingers party either but
gays and lesbians are still all part of the "GAY" Community. I believe this maybe an important point to this topic. So by your own logic if a gay man is not accepted into a lesbian party then the lesbians are not part of the "GAY" community. I think both gays and lesbians would disagree because both of them are and have reconciled with them selves that they are part of the gay community.
....Much like polyamorists may or may not visit a swingers club but like it or not they "polyamorist are part of the swingers lifestyle. As hard has they try to break the bond between swingers and them selves the
fact is if there is more than 2 people having sex in the same bed then they are swingers. Even if the sex is relationship based.
Again another issue is BDSM there are straight, Male bisexual, female bisexual, gay and lesbian BDSM clubs and some are seperated and others are combined.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Generally I think most 'poly' relationships are B.S. and are all destined to an early failure. That doesn't mean under the right circumstances it couldn't work. The B.S. part is that a majority of people who SAY they are poly are not, which is the point I was driving at before, but I would not say ALL poly relationships are B.S.
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I kind of agree, I think if their heads are in the right place there is no reason why it couldn't work. However, I think most of the swingers are B.S. too......LOL
I think it may come down to do say what you are going to do and do what you say.
It seems while most state on the profiles they want LTR's they seem to settle for one night flings until they find the "perfect relationship they've built up in their minds" which is never going to happen. If that makes sense?
My intention is not to make anyone upset but just to discuss the different aspect and point of views.