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Originally Posted by Lucifer
This 'whole big thing' as you put it, is cause Lucifer is trying to understand the limits of 'peaceful protest.' They said that they were going to protest us 'peacefully', we said 'okay', and kept on coming. If we'd understood that 'peaceful' in their eyes meant vandalism and trespassing, we'd have gone to MARSEC 3 at that moment, and either stood off shore out of reach of them, or had the whole crew out lining the rails so they couldn't have gotten on board.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Peaceful is non-violent. That's how protesters speak. Did they shoot you? Did they strike you? Did they blow a hole in your boat? No? Then they were non-violent. If you get word again, phone the coast guard or whatever policing force has jurisdiction over your location. It's not difficult. If the protesters do something illegal, then they are stopped and arrested.
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They were non-violent, yes, but they were not entirely peaceful. "Peaceful" also implies actions that remain in accordance with laws. As a protester, if you break laws, you aren't being peaceful.
Disrupting a legitimate business' rightful activities isn't what I would call peaceful. But I think we've established that protests aren't necessarily supposed to be legal. Not all of we Thoreaus will decide to pay our poll taxes.
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Last edited by Baraka_Guru; 09-16-2007 at 09:48 AM..
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