The first thing I want to say is that I find this thread hilarious for a few reasons, but I don't want to get into it now.
People so frequently talk about ideal qualities, what they need, what they want, what they can do without, but in reality, most of it doesn't matter.
I used to think I would only want to be with someone who looked and acted certain ways, and that got me nowhere; as I grew up I realized that not only was that a superficial way of thinking, but that there were plenty of attractive people who didn't fit that mold. I moved on, but still thought that I could only be with someone who thought like me; that got me nowhere and I once again found myself attracted to people who didn't fit that mold and discarded it. I only recently managed to cast off the idea that I would have to be with someone who shared my philosophical and religious views, and not artificially restricting myself once again proved to be the way to go.
I still have one ideal, but it's just something I hope for rather than a criterion that must be met: if I end up settling down and getting married, I want to marry a woman who's smarter than me.
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Originally Posted by RenaissanceII
A point of clarification....
Is living in a basement apartment okay?
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I guarantee it's the kind of guy who typically lives in his parents' basement that's the problem, not the actual location.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
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I'm really glad you're back.
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Originally Posted by serlindsipity
Psycho dad- I hope she rewarded you by making the sheets dirty for doing that!
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I have an issue with this statement. I understand what you mean, but I think that the attitude that a lot of people have is warped; relationships shouldn't be a compromise or a competition. When not for reproduction, sex shouldn't be a reward, and withholding it shouldn't be a punishment. At the simplest level, it's the mutual fulfillment of a physical desire; in a relationship, it's not only that but a way to deepen the emotional bond by pleasing each other.
For shampooing the carpet instead of doing something fun, it seems more fitting to me if she had gone out of her way to cook his favorite meal, or treated him to something special.
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Originally Posted by Racnad
I've noticed that this section doesn't have the endless "nice guy vs. jerks" discussions that fill up other relationship forums, I don't want to start one now. But I will say that that for both genders, what they think they want intellectually is not the same what actually triggers romantic/sexual interest.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again now. The reason "nice guys" finish last is because that's all they have. If I tell a girl she should meet one of my friends and when she asks him why I said that he replies "I'm a nice guy," it means that it's hi sonly redeeming characteristic; he probably has a one-dimensional personality, is willing to be her doormat, will do anything for her, but won't do anything more. The way for relationships to work is for the partners to see each other as equals, not for one to put the other on a pedestal.