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Old 09-04-2007, 04:39 PM   #60 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceventura3
I think your order is all wrong and there is a number 4. Goes like this:

1. North Korea decides to develop nuclear weapons
2. Bush declares North Korea, Iran, and Iraq the 'Axis of Evil'.
3. Bush invades Iraq and blows it to smithereens.
4. NK negotiates to prevent the same fate.



Yes.
Really you are both wrong.

1. Clinton notices that NK has a nuclear program, he offers them aid in response to major issues facing their country, i.e. them being a pariah country and them facing a major famine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine)
2. North Korea never lives up to their end of the Clinton deal (1994ish if I remember) and proceed with their nuclear program.
3. Pres Shrub labels N. Korea members of Axis of Evil, and shifts away from Clinton diplomacy (where they got the aid and didn't keep up end of bargain)
3b. North Korea begins saber rattling of their own because they remain on verge of major famine, and near governmental collapse (Luckily China props them up). Nuclear program acclerates.
3c. 2006 North Korea claims to have successfully detonated a Nuclear device after having a clandestine program operated for at least 15+ years.

North Korea was not pushed to this by Bush, nor his cowboy diplomacy. It is a known fact that they got the majority of the information of their program info from Dr. AQ Khan, the rogue Pakistani scientist who sold nuclear secrets to Iran and Libya. This shady dealings date back as far back as the 80's and 90's, again nothing to do with Shrub.

Will summed up the reasoning behind the madness pretty much. NK is a piece of shit country, operated by a complete nutbar. They saber rattled to keep focus on them because their country couldn't maintain; I think (personal opinion) Bush's "cowboy diplomacy" i.e. not talking with them directly, not caving in to shut them up, worked. I think it should be noted to, that the success of their detenation/program, is up in the air for legitimacy.
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