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Old 09-04-2007, 09:40 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
And they both died for it by violence.
So did the violent people. Remind me, how did Alexander the Great die? Poison. How did Attila the Hun die? Wife. Genghis Khan? In battle. Hitler? Suicide.

I suspect that simply bringing about change is what draws the violent end, though there may never be a sure way to know.
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Plus what ALLOWS non-violent methods to succeed is only that Western Civilization is powerful enough to restrain its own violence. Only our cultural sensibilities allow it to succeed, a very slight change in those and its back to slavery and subjugations which is what the bulk of human history accepted as normal.
So Eastern Civilization can't restrain their violence? Did I miss something? Did Japan already destroy NK?
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