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Old 09-03-2007, 01:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by filtherton
I would argue that cellular respiration is the root of all power in this here rock, but that would only apply to the efforts of animals. Perhaps the physical laws of the universe are a more apt basis.
I don't know, bro. That might be involuntary!

If I had a choice to breathe or not... I might just stop!

Rumor has it too much breathing causes lung cancer!

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Violence is a currency.

It is the most powerful currency our species has, its how we are wired as great apes.

The funny thing is while we claim to abhor violence it is perhaps the very reason we have civilization in the first place. A clan, becomes a tribe, becomes a nation, for power and protection. To do violence unto others while protecting itself from others.

To deny its importance is to deny our heritage, and even trying to change it may well be folly as those who don't change will have the currency the pacifists lack.
Hey, this is what I was trying to say.

Thanks, chief.

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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
And the "life is an illusion" cliche isjust that, a cliche. It has nothing to do with this discussion. I'm not sure why you brought it up.
Totally sardonic comment. A lame retort to the "power is an illusion" cliche, chief... like my choice of underwear, not to be taken seriously.

Silly side point:

Sure, power/force is an illusion in society. It is based on an action timeline. Illusion? Definitely. Damned if it doesn't just "illusion" some people to death!

See "World War 2" for references to the illusion of power killing people.

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Just screwin' around. I love your brains.

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Originally Posted by Nimetic
Mmm.

Maybe - but respectfully I'm going to try to throw spanners and see if anything sticks.

How does this explain

- sexual attraction.... of men to women
- power of a child, over a parent
- Ghandi's non-violent protest movement
- mass religious movements such as cults
- the effectiveness of modern advertising
Mmm, let's be really vague:

- Sexual chemical reaction reward mechanism... I only want sex because my brain chems are screaming for it
- Parental chemical reaction reward mechanism... I only protect my child because I get a high from it or prevent a low
- Dunno, but I'd still fight him
- The cult stereotype typically involves fanatics and violence... we talking Charlie Manson or Catholic church? Both killed a lot of people.
- I don't own a television, but magazines seem to play on #1 and #2
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