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Old 09-03-2007, 01:46 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by abaya
It does not happen in a vacuum.
AS YOU DESCRIBE IT, IT MOST CERTAINLY DOES HAPPEN.


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Originally Posted by abaya
In fact, you could almost take the following quote and take it back 200 years, depending on your country, and I am very sure that the colonized peoples would be saying the exact same thing about the European colonizers (substitute for "refugees"). Wouldn't you agree?
DEPENDING ON THE COUNTRY”, YES. BUT IT DOES NOT APPLY TO MINE HOWEVER.


----- Originally Posted by Fast Forward -----
Anyone interested in any subject would do better to do his/her own research. Why draw any conclusion from a "second party" source - especially when that second party is unqualifed?
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Originally Posted by abaya
Are you saying that your opinion is unqualified?
YES, IT IS. OF COURSE IT IS. DID YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE?

HIS/HER QUESTION IS ABOUT ”MY INTERPRETATION”. CORRECT? MY ”KNOWLEDGE” IS BASED UPON INTERVIEWS – BOTH PERSONAL AND ”OFFICIAL” (OOOOH, BUT I HESITATE TO USED THAT WORD).

I DID A 9-PART TV SERIES BASED ON IMMIGRANTS IN MY CITY. THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AGO. ON ONE EPISODE I PARTIALLY DEDICATED THE QUESTION OF ”FATWAH” AND THEIR CONVICTION [OR INTERPRETATION(?)] OF THE ”OBLIGATION” OF ALL MOSLEMS TO KILL WHOEVER HAPPEND TO BE ON THE FATWAH.. I QUESTIONED ABOUT 25 TO 30 MOSLEMS, OF VARYING NATIONALITIES - BOTH SHIA AND SUNI THOUGH, BECAUSE OF REDUNDANCIES I ONLY TELEVISED 10 OF THEM.

ANYWAY, THE RESULT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERVIEWED WAS NOT QUITE 50/50 – THOSE WHO PROUDLY DEFENDED THE ”OBLIGATION” AND THOSE WHO FELT UNCOMFORTABLE AND AHSAMED OF IT. HOWE ER, NOT ONE DENIED THAT THE OBLIGATION IS EXPECTED. TO PUT IT INTO OTHER WORDS ALL OF THEM ACKNOWLEDGED THE OBLIGATION WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREED WITH IT PERSONALLY.

THESE, (PLUS SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS WITH MOSLEMS), ARE MY ONLY CREDENTIALS. IF YOU WANT ME TO RESPOND TO ”MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION” OF THE KORAN, MOSLEM LAW, THEN I'D HAVE TO READ IT THOROUGHLY FIRST.

----- Originally Posted by Fast Forward -----
I would rather that "respect" is awarded to earnest observances rather than emotional ones.
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Originally Posted by abaya
So, calling people baboons is an "earnest" observance, not an emotional one?
I'M NOT SURE. PROBABLY NOT. BUT SURELY YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I'M SAYING THAT PERPETRATORS OF ”HONOUR KILLINGS” ARE ACTUAL, SWINGING IN THE TREES BABOONS. YOU DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I WAS MAKING A FANCY, ANOLOGICAL CRITISIZM?

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Originally Posted by abaya
Also, you have not answered whether or not you agree with my statement:
----- Originally Posted by abaya -----
So, can I get a clear, unequivocal statement from you that there are a minority of Muslims in the world who, by virtue not of their religion but by virtue (or vice?) of their own twisted version of it (combined with a number of other complex factors, including cultural and economic ones), commit murder?


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