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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
cynical more than joking... and while yes, sometimes laws are attempts at forced morality, in my opinion, rarely is the law about what's "moral."
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Maybe I should say, "In an ideal world, laws are agreed on morality that society and government supports and even enforces."
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
unless what i remember from biology class is a bit rusty, i believe you just described fertilization. which you previously said that until implanted, it's okay to abort through plan b.
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Right, so when fertilization is complete, you no longer have egg and sperm; you've got a human being.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
according to what you said earlier, your arbitrary point does not represent the change from two non-living to one living entity. you said implantation. either i'm reading you wrong, you said it wrong, or...?
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I probably said it wrong. I remember a lot from human biology (4-5 years ago), but not everything. I hope the above makes it more clear. If my biology is still lacking, I might still have my textbook.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
i'm personally pro-abortion. and until a the fetus is viable, i think abortion should be legal. (just letting you know my arbitrary point of no return.)
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I guess that would make me "anti-choice". No surprise there.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
i think we understand fertilizaton differently. my understanding is that fertilization is when the sperm and the egg combine. it takes just an instant. it may take another 6 days for implantation, but what difference does that make? they've combined into one cell, and the process has started. to say it's okay to wait 6 more days seems to me to be as arbitrary as saying the process can go on for 6 more weeks or 6 more months. it's still arbitrary. why should your arbitrary point take precedence over mine?
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I'll have to crack open that book, I guess.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
until birth, it's only a potential person... until it can successfully survive outside the womb, it's still only has potential. yes, it's a stage in the development of a homo sapian, it is a member of our species, but it's not a person (legally, morally or philosopically imo).
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Legally, it's not defined. Morally and philosophically, it's up to the individual, as of right now.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
anyway, i'm about to hit the movies, i'm out for the night!
happy friday!
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Balls of Fury? Me too!