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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
since when does the law have anything to do with morality?
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This is a joke? Or are you being cynical? I'm sorry, but it's tough to pick up on without nonverbal communication.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
you seem to be making an arbitrary choice here... why is taking a pill that prevents implantation (after fertilization) any different than a procedure or pill that removes the implanted cells?
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Neither a sperm nor an egg is a homo sapiens. When they converge and start dividing, they cease to be ovum and sperm and become a homo sapiens. I'd hardly call that arbitrary. Birth, on the other hand, is simply the difference between developmental stages. I don't see it as being much different than a girl getting her first period.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
if you think making an arbitrary goalpost for when halting a pregnancy is okay and when it isn't, why should your stopping point take precedence over mine?
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Mine represents the change between two non-living entities and one living entity. Assuming your arbitrary goal post is birth, the kid is a human before and after birth. They're just in a bigger room and they eat through their mouths.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
and if you think that abortion should never be allowed, that your goal post is set at the beginning, you do need to go all the way back, at least to the moment of fertilization. the only reason i'd say you can't go so far back to call masterbation "abortion" (hey, any one of those sperms could be a potential person you're killing) is because women ovulate monthly and you can't really call that killing a potential person because they're not doing it by choice.
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There is ovum and sperm, then they combine, and as I understand it it takes something like 6 days for the egg to become fertilized and start into the process of turning into you or me. It's in that transition period that things like the morning after pill works, so it makes sense to use them. It's not about a *potential* person*, it's about a human being, meaning a living member of the species homo sapiens.