The reason I keep asking what country you live in, is because you keep referring to "your" country and how its culture and people are, and I have no idea how to understand what you mean until you give me the actual context for those comments:
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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
I believe in a quiet, clean invironment, where neighbours respect everyone else's peace. These are common qualities of my countrymen and I am part and parcel of that culture.
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It would also be good to know the particular colonial history of your country, since most countries in Europe have invaded and taken over other countries' cultures at some point in the last few hundreds years, and that is a very salient point to be made when discussing international migration. It does not happen in a vacuum.
In fact, you could almost take the following quote and take it back 200 years, depending on your country, and I am very sure that the colonized peoples would be saying the exact same thing about the European colonizers (substitute for "refugees"). Wouldn't you agree?
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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
These last years, however, have seen several thousands of refugees (weekly!) who have no interest in our way of life at all. They scorn us. They ridicule us. They sabotage the language classes by shouting down female (who such people consider inferior) teachers and critizing my countrymen, our language, our culture, our values, our religion, our system, our general non-agressive behaviour, etc. In short, that OTHER PROBLEM is beyond correcting by persons like me remaining in the midst of people who purposely sabotage my cultural and disrespect everything that me and my country stand for.
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You are probably addressing this more to Baraka_Guru, but I must ask...
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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
Anyone interested in any subject would do better to do his/her own research. Why draw any conclusion from a "second party" source - especially when that second party is unqualifed?
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Are you saying that your opinion is unqualified?... I'm confused. This seems like a bit of a cop-out on answering the question of what your source is re: Muslim law.
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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
I would rather that "respect" is awarded to earnest observances rather than emotional ones.
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So, calling people baboons is an "earnest" observance, not an emotional one?
You also have not answered the question about why you have persisted in discussing Muslim Arabs and Somalis, when the OP is about Pakistanis. They are not "all the same."
Also, you have not answered whether or not you agree with my statement:
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Originally Posted by abaya
So, can I get a clear, unequivocal statement from you that there are a minority of Muslims in the world who, by virtue not of their religion but by virtue (or vice?) of their own twisted version of it (combined with a number of other complex factors, including cultural and economic ones), commit murder?
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If you agree with it, then we have nothing more to discuss. Which is what I would prefer, because your posts resemble tar babies...