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Originally Posted by abaya
..... for you to put forth a statement that every Muslim is under the obligation to be a crazy maniac is truly over the top, in terms of sound logic.
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What I find funny, in this statement of yours, is that I have NEVER made any post resembling those sentiments. So who are you quoting (or paraphrasing), may I ask? What I really said stands fast. That is , ”... the obligation of every Moslem (anywhere in the world) to murder whoever is on the 'Fatwa' list.”
The part about ”crazy lunatic” is yours – and yours alone. So be so kind not to continue this mis-quoting of me. It's gone much too far already and it's getting irritating. OK?
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Originally Posted by abaya
How much church history have you read lately? Crusades, hmm?
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I'm banking on you being honest enough to know/admit that there is a huge difference between mass ”crusades” carried out by Christians, Moslems, etc. and individual ”executions”.
Furthermore, I'm also banking on your intelligence to see that the subject is ”Honour Killings” - not attrocities committed by Irish Catholics upon Irish Protestants – Irish Protestants committed upon Irish Cahtolics – Moslems committed upon Hindus – Hindus committed upon Moslems – Moslems committed upon Sihks – Sihks committed upon Moslems – Tutsies committed upon Hutus – Hutus committed upon Tutises – Serbs commited upon Bosnians – Bosnians committed upon Serbs – Americans committed upon Cubans – Americans committed upon Iraqis – Americans committed upon Vietnamese – Americans committed upon Iranians – Americans committed upon Nicaraguans – White Americans committed upon Black Americans – etc. etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by abaya
How many Muslims do you know personally?
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More than I could possibly count.
I have been in about 20 Moslem countries. The majority being Arab countries. Furthermore, I live in a predominantely Moslem part of my city. I am a minority in my own town. I am a minority in my own country, you could say. I will be moving to another part of city on the 1st. of October because after 8 years of living in such an invironment, I 've had more than I can take. Believe me that I can tell you things that me and my family have had to endure that you would think are untrue. For example, my daughter is pelted with stones (by Arabs and Somalis) whenever she is seen with her boyfriend in our neighbourhood. Why, you may ask? Because she walks with him ”hand in hand”. But isn't this my country – my culture?
Worst of all (and the deciding factor in me taking my family out of this part of the city) is the ”Honour Killing” comitted upon my daughter's classmate. Her family (father, brother, and uncle) slit her throat while she was sleeping in her bed because she was ”sweet” on a local boy – a non-Moslem. Apparently, she didn't even get around to tasting ”the goods” with her boyfriend. It is enough for the family that there was a possibility of her eventually ”doing it” with him. The girl was round to our house many times to listen to my daughter's music CD's and she seemed like a nice girl, coping with the difficulities of her Moslem background yet enjoying the freedom of expression allotted to life in Europe.
My daughter is still going to therapy because of her friend's death. She now clings to me and my wife and she's afraid to go out with her friends after school. She's becoming a recluse at the age of 14 and we don't know how to help her.