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Old 08-22-2007, 08:48 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by asaris
If mind is not our greatest instrument for discovering truth, what is our greatest instrument?
Since there are many mystics there are many different terms for these states of consciousness due to locality and such.

I'll use the terms Sri Aurobindo used, because they are in English. Pretty much all of his works are in English as well so it is easy for you to peruse.

The reasoning mind, as I called it above, he calls Mental Mind. Below it are the Vital Mind and Physical Mind.
Above it, as concerns us, are the Higher Mind, Illumined Mind, Intuitive Mind (has nothing to do with the normal definition of intuition), Overmind and Supermind.

I quote from his work "The Life Divine" as to an explanation of how the Higher Mind cognizes.

This higher consciousness is a Knowledge formulating itself on a basis of self-existent all-awareness and manifesting some part of its integrality, a harmony of its significances put Into thought-form. It can freely express itself in single ideas, but its most characteristic movement is a mass ideation, a system or totality of truth-seeing at a single view; the relations of idea with idea, of truth with truth are not established by logic but pre-exist and emerge already self-seen in the integral whole. There is an initiation into forms of an ever-present but till now inactive knowledge, not a system of conclusions from premisses or data; this thought is a self-revelation of eternal Wisdom, not an acquired knowledge. Large aspects of truth come into view in which the ascending Mind, if it chooses, can dwell with satisfaction and, after its former manner, live in them as in a structure; but if progress is to be made, these structures can constantly expand into a larger structure or several of them combine themselves into a provisional greater whole on the way to a yet unachieved integrality. In the end there is a great totality of truth known and experienced but still a totality capable of infinite enlargement because there is no end to the aspects of knowledge, nastyanto vistarasya me.

This is possible because the divine (i.e. the One, God, &c), which is Knowledge, is in direct contact with these higher levels of consciousness.

This connection does not directly stop at "regular" mind, it is however very seldom, short and much more obscured that such connections occur in that state.

I wish to reiterate that this is not the experience of one person. Whether you read the great mystics like Plotinus or the smaller ones like Gopi Krishna they describe the same state(s). There are also non-mystics who have had the experiences for very short durations (Dostoyevsky comes to mind).

The keyword in your question is "discover". There need not be any discovering for we are Truth. Unfortunately it is not present all the way down to the physical consciousness; we need to reach up for it.
The Yoga practised by Sri Aurobindo tried to bring Truth all the way down, but if you are interested in that I'm sure you will find and read about it.

Since you quote Nietsche you most likely are familiar with Schopenhauer who was in turn inspired by the Vedanta. You could peruse that path as well.

The Sanskrit at the end of the quote is from the Bhagavad Gita and can be translated as "My self-extension is endless". "My" being Krishna.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Crompsin
We are what we do.
If you admit the little that is written above (if only hypothetically) it would mean that our everyday actions are not guided by the divine, because our everyday consciousness is not in contact with it.

Is it not undeniable that the people that are in touch with it are exemplary and are absolutely fitted to learn from?

Why not go to some center where you can meditate for one or two weeks? What do you have to lose, maybe you'll find it interesting; if only to dismiss it.

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