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Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
What one might consider a Christian life, others may consider an unwinnable attempt at perfection before God. All our righteousness is as filthy rags before the Lord, Isaiah. All of it.
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Hey man, I'm the first to agree with you on that point, but that's why I walked away from the Christian life itself. I decided the filthy rags were pretty damn fun, and comfortable to boot. Which means I'm most likely destined for hell (unless one believes in eternal salvation... some doctrines do)... but whoops, I don't believe in hell. Why should I?
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Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
Lets see if I have all the rules down for Christianity, you can masturbate if you like, but you cant think lustful thoughts (quite the conundrum there).
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BTW, I also agree with you on this point... it IS a conundrum, and the one that has been driving my posts on this thread. I don't think the two are inseparable, but as Parable says, maybe for some people they are (they can masturbate without lust). Lucky them.
For the rest of Christians who cannot separate masturbation from lust, the answer seems clear. Masturbation is one way of inviting the devil into one's house and having a beer with him, is it not? It is not fleeing from temptation. If one believes in the devil, one ought to take him damn seriously, I'd think. Would any pastor disagree?