the jewish view
Baraka_Guru,
You said "This means masturbation is fine, so long as it pleases your wife and you don't spill that seed by the time you've finished."
What if your wife has been surgically sterilized, so that conception is not possible? That is, at that point her vagina is simply a repository, functionally the same as the ground, is it not? Or, perhaps she has gone through menopause, is there a difference?
What is the logic here? Does oral sex qualify as not spilling the seed?
I'm not trying to be flippant, rather just seeing what the limits are.
Also, I rather like the quote you put as your signature:
"Humankind cannot bear much reality."—T. S. Eliot
Philip K. Dick said something similar...."Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane".
Parable
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