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Old 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
Cynosure
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I have come to the conclusion, or rather what makes sense to me, is that everything is "god", or rather, part of the universe.
There is nothing new about this conclusion. Many ancient cultures have come to this very conclusion. Some anthropologists say it's the default conclusion, as far as religions go.

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I think as soon as you use the name "god" people think of a superior being, which immediately separates them from it.
If it's not a supernaturally superior being and an infinitely higher power, then it's not, by definition, "God". (Note, capital "G" – we're not really talking about the gods and demi-gods of Egyptian or Greek mythology, here.)

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Why do we need a superior being, or rather, why do we need that being to have a concious mind like us?
If a God-being is not conscious and self-aware, then we as human beings really can't relate to it, just as we can't relate to a rock or a tree. Or to a moon or a star.

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Even more so, why do we need that being to govern what happens to us when we die, or even while we live?
Because, the human race is fundamentally flawed, and it has neither the power to raise the dead, nor the ability to make us immortal. And no matter how advanced our science might get, it looks like we never will have that power or ability. And despite our thousands of years of progress in technology and society, we are still making the same mistakes and suffering from most if not all of the same shortcomings (biological, psychological, and societal) that our ancient ancestors did.

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I believe the universe created us, from the matter, from the energy, from itself.

When we die, we are still part of the universe, but we are no longer concious, as our brain is no longer in use.
If, when we die, we forever lose consciousness, not even having any dreamstate, and all our memories and everything that made us what we were, as an individual, is snuffed out irrevocably, then it is without worth to us, as individuals, that we are "still part of the universe".

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I am, personally quite proud to be part of this absolutely beautiful universe, both in this life, and forever after I die.
This universe of ours is indeed awesomely beautiful, but it's also incredibly and almost entirely hazardous and destructive toward human life. I think our existence in this universe, if not purposely created within it, is more of an anomaly and a defiance against the norms of this universe, than our existence is harmonious with the universe or typical of it.

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In this philosophy, science and religion are the same, and nothing to prove.
Well, of course, a philosophy that offers no real hope for humanity nor offers anything for an individual to gain, has nothing to prove.

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I think our feelings and emotions are part of our makeup to ensure our survival.
That is definitely the case, whether there is a God and a afterlife, or not.

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Life, is something that has come about from the universe's constantant changes until it developed an algorithim (for lack of a better word) that keeps itself sustained.

It probably failed many times until it got this algorithim working independantly.
I believe many of the actions we do, we do to ensure our survival, because this is how life needed to exist.

Simply, it exists, because it exists, and we wonder why.
otherwise we wouldn't exist, and we wouldn't wonder why.
So, basically, your view of how the universe works and how intelligent life exists, can be summed up (IMHO) with the phrase, "Shit happens".

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