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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
"We must get rid of all the guns". Sarah Brady, Phil Donahue Show 1994
to add to that, the brady campaign was initially started as Handgun Control inc. An organization whose intent was to ban all civilian ownership of handguns.
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Originally Posted by soundmotor
Attack the messenger all you like.
Sarah Brady is an anti-gun advocate and has been on point since her husband was brutally attacked and nearly destroyed. Like other victims of violent crime, that event shaped her viewpoint. Since she came out on the anti-gun platform she has never avoided that. To suggest otherwise is absurd.
What is amusing though are people who feel compelled to massage her image because her openess on this happens to be politically inconvenient. I know who Sarah Brady is and you do too. The difference is you deny it and I don't. I may not agree with her but I do respect her commitment and honesty even if I don't agree.
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It appears to me that it is you guys who are massaging her image...in a negative way...with no credible sources to support your posts of her alleged quotes.
I was going to let the Sarah Brady issue go, but since you want to keep it alive with more unsubstantiated and undocumented quotes, I thought I would provide some quotes that can be documented:
Speech from Sarah Brady, delivered to general public on October 13, 1994, at the Thompson Conference Center, at the University of Texas, Austin,
TX:
There are people sure would like to ban everything; there're others who would like--do not want any laws and would arm everyone. But somewhere in the middle are most of us who feel that if you are responsible--FINE, but let us do everything to instill that responsibility and I know Texans' love their guns. Lots of people in this Nation do. One of the very first speeches I gave was in New Hampshire to a town hall meeting years ago and absolutely nobody came to hear me except two bus loads of NRA members. They sat politely and listened, so Texas is not the only state that loves their guns, people in Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts everywhere. That's part of our culture and we are not trying to change that....
HCI, the organization I chair--and I think we share this also with Texans Against Gun Violence--want and I have said this before, our key is responsibility. Responsibility from gun owners, responsibility from the dealers, and responsibility from the manufacturers of guns and that is what gun control is kids, responsibility. It is not banning; gun control can work and can work even more effectively and that is why I think more and more Americans are demanding tougher laws.
....Common sense measures like training--does it not make good sense--that people know how to use the weapons....
...We need to expand the list of prohibited purchasers to those convicted of violent misdemeanors and cracking down on the illegal sales at gun shows. ...
...Regulate, but not ban or take away. It is regulation and it is done for one purpose only and that is to save lives so we advocate in our bill in the future that we require licensing of all purchasers, licensing to include mandatory safety training, and that every purchaser have this license; whether they buy it from a licensed gun dealer or whether they buy it from their neighbor. And in order to do that just as we do with cars you must register your gun, not a large Federal registry in Washington; of all of the gun owners. If they wanted that, all we would have to do--of our Government--is try to take over all of the guns in this country, which they--there is no chance of anyway--but all they would have to do is go to the NRA Headquarters and get their mailing list* and they could go get them, so that would be the easy way you don't bother registering them....
....Every gun owner should be responsible for what happens to his or her weapon. That's all we say, and the way to do that is through registration. You buy it from--you have to buy it from a licensed gun dealer to begin with, then when you go to sell it you be sure that the person you sell it to also has a license...
http://www.io.com/~velte/sarah.htm
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Sarah and Jim Brady speak at the Democratic National Convention
August 26, 1996
That's why we supported legislation that would require a waiting period for the purchase of a handgun. The idea was simple: Establish a "cooling off" period and give police the time they need to conduct a background check on the buyer...
..The gun lobby likes to say that Jim and I are trying to take guns away from hunters and sportsmen. The gun lobby is wrong. To the hunters and sportsmen of America we say: keep your guns. But just give us the laws that we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and out of the hands of children.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/conventi...hes/brady.html
Soundmotor "knows" that Sarah Brady is an anti-gun advocate from undocumented quotes on thinkexist.com, a site like wikopedia, where anyone can join and post a supposed quote from a famous person, without providing documentation.
and dk, where is the documentation to give credibility to your supposed Sarah Brady quote from the Donohue show? Do you have a transcript or is it secondhand from a gun advocacy site?
Its these kinds of baseless, unsupportable posts that I find dishonesty and simply cheap shots at those with positions with which you disagree.
If you cant document it, it has no credibility......and as far as i am concerned, its just bullshit put out and perpetuated by those without the facts to support their allegations.