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roachboy · 08-11-2007, 09:39 AM

powerclown:

my reaction to ace here comes from a deep boredom with this forum.

i would simply prefer to be able to imagine the possibility of an actual informed debate with folk whose politics are radically different from my own.
recycling what i already think without friction is of no interest to me.
i can do that without wasting time typing.

maybe there is something of a life-span to one's engagement with this kind of thing--i'd prefer to think that's not the case--but perhaps i am wrong and there is one.

i find roachboy-in-politics to be a tedious machine--i dont know where this voice he uses came from and i--the other guy, the one pulling his strings--cant seem to get away from it. given that there is little in the way of informed discussion from folk whose politics are opposed to my own, it seems that roachboy-in-politics simply fossilizes and as that happens my own interest in him grows dim.

so this interaction with ace is perhaps just the surfacing of a more general alienation regarding the forum--and given that the issues being debated are for most of us (so far as i can tell) experience-distant, playing with them requires that one do a bit of work in order to get up to speed--and that work is done by some and not others--and it turns out that the folk who do that work occupy positions close enough to my own that there are not a whole lot of things to debate over and those who i would hope would array themselves in opposition simply do not have control over enough information for this to be much fun.

so perhaps in the end it is my problem, i dont know. it probably is.

i dont see how to reverse this process. the only significance of this thread (at this point, in my view) is that it make the underlying issue i have with the politics forum explicit. but i retain a sentimental attachment to the forum as it is how i became interested in tfp. perhaps it is this sentimental attachment as its wires get crossed with this other pattern that generates the snippiness here.

dont know.
really...

08-11-2007, 09:39 AM	#77 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	powerclown: my reaction to ace here comes from a deep boredom with this forum. i would simply prefer to be able to imagine the possibility of an actual informed debate with folk whose politics are radically different from my own. recycling what i already think without friction is of no interest to me. i can do that without wasting time typing. maybe there is something of a life-span to one's engagement with this kind of thing--i'd prefer to think that's not the case--but perhaps i am wrong and there is one. i find roachboy-in-politics to be a tedious machine--i dont know where this voice he uses came from and i--the other guy, the one pulling his strings--cant seem to get away from it. given that there is little in the way of informed discussion from folk whose politics are opposed to my own, it seems that roachboy-in-politics simply fossilizes and as that happens my own interest in him grows dim. so this interaction with ace is perhaps just the surfacing of a more general alienation regarding the forum--and given that the issues being debated are for most of us (so far as i can tell) experience-distant, playing with them requires that one do a bit of work in order to get up to speed--and that work is done by some and not others--and it turns out that the folk who do that work occupy positions close enough to my own that there are not a whole lot of things to debate over and those who i would hope would array themselves in opposition simply do not have control over enough information for this to be much fun. so perhaps in the end it is my problem, i dont know. it probably is. i dont see how to reverse this process. the only significance of this thread (at this point, in my view) is that it make the underlying issue i have with the politics forum explicit. but i retain a sentimental attachment to the forum as it is how i became interested in tfp. perhaps it is this sentimental attachment as its wires get crossed with this other pattern that generates the snippiness here. dont know. really... __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite Last edited by roachboy; 08-11-2007 at 09:44 AM..